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BarbieGirl
#1 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 5:20:45 PM Quote
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Hi everyone,

I have received my copy of the letter from my rheumy visit of 13th August. It states that I have PATELLOFEMERAL CREPITUS of both knees. Previous inflammatory markers ere high so repeats asked for. GLOBAL SCORE 60

Can anyone help me understand this please?

It does mention 6 tender joints, but no swelling

I had x rays of knees, hands and feet, and at the bottom of the letter he has written that x rays of hands and feet showed no signs of erosions, and knees showed degenerative disease Huh Confused
BARBARA
BarbieGirl
#2 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 5:35:29 PM Quote
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Not really a reply but anyway.......

i also have degeneration of the spine, I haven't been told if this is related to the RA or if its osteo or previous damage. Any ideas??
BARBARA
Naomi1
#3 Posted : Friday, August 24, 2012 7:49:22 PM Quote
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My understanding would be that the knees have been damaged by osteoarthritis. I could be wrong though. I think crepitus means bone rubbing upon bone. I'm sorry I can't be of much use. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will step in tough and I'll read the replies as I'm trying to learn as much as I can about RA. Best wishes, Naomi.
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#4 Posted : Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:43:58 AM Quote
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Just found this which may help

Patellofemoral Crepitus

This is a type of Crepitus that increases the friction between the surfaces of two joint bones, the trochlear groove of the femur or lower end of the thigh bone and Patella (kneecap). This happens due to irregularity or softening of the joint surfaces.

The condition leads to a grating or grinding noise when the knee is moved. The condition in which Patellofemoral Crepitus arises is known as Patellofemoral Syndrome or Chondromalacia Patella. In normal, healthy individuals the friction between these two joint surfaces is around 20% of the friction between two ice blocks. The disorder is also commonly referred to as “Patella Femoral Crepitus”.


I think it is basically the cracky noise/feel that used to be felt as 'creaky joints'.
YES I'VE CHANGED, PAIN DOES THAT TO PEOPLE.
BarbieGirl
#5 Posted : Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:46:44 PM Quote
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Thank you Naomi and Julie

I have been seeing a different consultant who doesnt seem so helpful. The first time I saw him he said that I looked "spaced out" I told him I was in pain and hadnt slept much for a while.

I found it quite difficult to have to go through everything again with someone else. I had been seeing my original consultant for 2.5 years, and have no idea why I've been swapped around.

Oh well, that how it is, I suppose Sad
BARBARA
Naomi1
#6 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 12:00:24 AM Quote
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I had a quiet word with the rheumatology nurses about wanting to see a particular consultant and they made sure I was on her list. I wonder if this might work for you. It's important to feel like you have a good partnership with the consultant.
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#7 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 5:02:41 PM Quote
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Hi there

Each time we have an appointment with our rheumatologist they draw up a DAS score which measures how active the disease is. On each visit your rheumatology nurse will examine 28 joints (fingers, knuckles, elbows, wrists, shoulders, knees) to check for tenderness and swelling. They also combine your ESR and CRP readings, as a measurement of how much inflammation is in your blood and overall this gives them a global score of your disease activity. It sounds like your knees have been hit the hardest from the R.A disease. The R.A can also affect the spine, which is something I have found out recently.

I should try and stay with the consultant you trust and feel the best rapport with, don't feel you have to move to another consultant for their sake. Best of luck...

Love
Rebecca
LynW
#8 Posted : Monday, August 27, 2012 7:53:53 PM Quote
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Hi Barbara

A global score of 60 certainly isn't the DAS score!! Scared If it was you would no longer be walking this celestial plane ThumbDown It's more likely to refer to the pain indicator where the patient scores a level between 0-100.

DAS are categorised as follows:-

Less than 2.6 Disease remission
2.6 to 3.2 Low disease activity
More than 3.2 May merit change in therapy
for some patients
More than 5.1 Severe disease activity

Perhaps the doc meant 6.0 rather than 60! The maximum DAS based on 28 inflamed/swollen joints, 28 painful joints, global pain assessment of 100 and an ESR of 150mm would give a DAS outcome of 9.35.

Lyn x

My son, Ian, completed the BUPA Great North Run on 15th September running for the National Rheumatoid Arthritis Society (NRAS). You can read his story at http://www.justgiving.com/ianlukewilson

BarbieGirl
#9 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:50:14 PM Quote
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Lyn you did make me laugh!!!!

He didnt do a DAS at that visit. The one before it was 5.2, so he said it was quite high.

I only get to see the nurse every three months, then she examines the joints and if there are any problems and she wants to prescribe anything she goes into the consultant for confirmation

I prefer to see my original consultant, but I don't know who to contact. If i leave a message on the ansaphone it takes a few days for a reply, theres no one available to talk to apart from the receptionist.

Maybe when I go for my appointment I could ask the receptionist to make sure it goes onto Dr Garrood's pile

Thank you everyone, I do appreciate the replies x x x x xSmile
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